What makes us human?
BACKGROUND: In the off chance you have not heard of this debate their is a plan afoot that will amalgamate United States, Canada and Mexico into one NORTH AMERICAN UNION akin to the European Union and as a direct consequence to this unify the currency to what is called the AMERO. The reality of this plan which is purpoted to go into affect in 2010 is also subject to much discussion on both sides of thei issue.
The following is further to that debate and like every `coin' there are two sides. Each side tells its own story.
Here are the two sides to this story - see which one you believe.
Hal Turner who is an Internet broadcaster and blogger (search Youtube: Hal Turner , Hal Turner.com) presents a case and timetable for the release of the AMERO to replace the currency of the United States, Canada and Mexico.
A debunker to this claim presents an alternate reason for the creation of an AMERO coin presenting an argument that the coin minted is just a collectors item.
It is my opinion that the debunkers evidence in fact supports Hal Turner's case for the simple question: Why would a minter and distributor of coins invest so heavily in a coin that has no recognition as currency and in turn - who as a collector would invest in such a coin ?
But I bring this to you in order that you may draw your own conclusion:
COIN SIDE ONE:
COIN SIDE 2:
DEBUNKERS Case: (taken from YouTube)
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IT"S NOT THAT I DON"T BELIEVE THAT THE US IS WORKING...
IT"S NOT THAT I DON"T BELIEVE THAT THE US IS WORKING TOWARDS THE NAU, BUT...
Hal Turner has been filling everyone with bullshit claims of the US government sending billions of Ameros to China. Here's the real proof.
http://www.dc-coin.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=8
The coin he actually shows:
http://www.dc-coin.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=133
From the Daniel Carr website:
I have received numerous inquiries as to my personal stand on the North American Union (NAU) issue.
My goal with these coins is not to endorse a Union of North America or a common "Amero" currency. I fully support the United States Constitution, and I would not welcome (in any form) a diminishment of its provisions. I expect that these coins will help make more people aware of the issue and the possible ramifications. I leave it up to others to decide if they are in favor of, or against a North American Union. And I encourage citizens to voice their approval or disapproval of government plans that impact them.
Hal's Blog spot:
http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/
Sorry Hal.
Pwnd!
Category: News & Politics
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Hope or Humanity Lost?
The moments of time that has brought us here
Presents the opportunity to review what is dear
To lives lost and to those gained
The hope for humanities goodness yet to be reclaimed
The challenges to recover from history's loss
To question authority that claims to be boss
To assert the freedom of one and all
Or into darkness we choose to fall
To those who have found and spoken the truth
Only to find death by conspiracies that shoot
In reflection their attempts deemed admirable
Yet their impact for change not recognizable
To what failing in morality does this attest
Is lust for violence and hatred our best?
Or can humanity chart a different course
Before it succumbs totally to this darkness force.
Now
(14-05-07)
NOW is the moment
Not before nor after
Projecting NOW
Diminishes the essence of NOW
That is NOW
Evidence expired NOW
A yesterday's reference
Testament to existence NOW
Without assurances NOW
To future NOW
NOW is NOW
Not before nor after
Experience NOW
Cherish NOW
Know NOW
Live NOW
Now.
Brothers and Sisters from far away
We rejoice their welcome to this place
For those who believe to see
With love and peace
A Soul's ascension
Be to re-birth
Re-birth to honor Thee
Those that choose to be blind
Will with experience be
Of a different kind
One not to be welcomed
Nor want to find
To re-birth in the same
The same kind of time
The challenge now is
To promulgate - spread the word
The word be thee a bird
Would look to fly
For the messenger's message
Be in the sky
O inward song of mal-content
Let purge thee through words to vent
This challenge gives rise to repent
To avail of the goodness that is heaven sent
This darkness that now prevails
Encumbers the happiness for want to sail
Through forgiveness this darkness doth curtail
So to the light this life can flail
With this blessing doth a phoenix rise?
Exposing effable beauty to awoken eyes
And from them tears of wonderment doth cry
For the joy of light consuming darkness beams high
VOICE 1: (V1:)
`Hello? Is anyone there?
Where am I?
VOICE 2: (V2:)
`Why, you are here.'
V1:
`Where is here? I don't sense your presence.'
V2::
` I am here.'
V1::
`But why the darkness? Am I dead?
Is this what death is?'
V2::
`That is up to you.'
V1:
`What do you mean it is up to me? Who are you?'
V2:
`I am who you want me to be.'
V1:
`Enough with the games! I am getting angry'
V2:
`That is good.'
V1:
`Why is that good? I truly am getting angry. I want an explanation of what is going on here and who you are!'
V2:
`But you know this already. I should not have to tell you.'
V1:
`Look, who ever you are I am tired of this already. How do I....'
V2:
`How do you - what?'
V1:
`I don't know. All of a sudden I realized that I am not I - I mean I have just realized that I do not have a body or physical form. That what I am or have become is just my thoughts. I am dead - that's it I have died and gone to heaven! And you - this voice you are God or his messenger come to greet me. Am I right? Is that who you are?'
V2:
`If that suits you, then let it be so. But this is for you to discover.'
V1:
`Well if I am not dead - No, no that has to be the explanation of what is going on!' Right?'
V2::
V1::
`Hello? Are you still there? Please answer me I am getting frightened. I suddenly feel all alone and....'
V2:
`You are as alone as you make yourself to be.'
V1:
`What does that mean? Why I have always been in the company of others - friends, family, children - you name it I had lots of people around me.'
V2:
`Then why do you feel so alone and scared?'
V1:
`Why? Well this is not the same thing. There is no one here save for yourself and I can't even see who or what you are. You could just be my imagination. Maybe I am just dreaming you up! Ah, how about that?'
V2:
No response
V1:
`Hello? I asked you a question! You can at least have the courtesy of answering.'
V2:
Still no response
V1:
`Damn you! Who the hell do you think you are? Dragging me here - whereever the hell this is and you start playing mind games with me like I am some kind of lab rat or something! I demand that you answer me!'
V2:
`You are angry. That is good.'
V1:
`Yes I am angry and you are not helping me to feel any better. Why have you brought me here to this place - this nothing of a place? Making me feel all alone and empty inside - missing those whom I love - my family and friends.'
V2:
`You are lonely. That is good.'
V1:
`Stop that! Why are you treating me this way? I have done nothing to you - I don't deserve this. I want to go home. I want to be with my...my.....'
V2:
`With whom? Who do you want to be with?'
V1:
`I don't know now. I thought I did. Just then in that instant that I spoke of it I thought I knew but now for some reason I don't and I can't remember. But I know they exist! I know they are probably missing me right now wondering where I have gotten to. I am sure of it.'
V2:
`If you are so sure then it must be.'
V1:
`I think so. I - I don't know. Why is this happening to me? Who are you? Damn it!
Ok, you are obviously not want to answer me on this. Let's see. What is the last thing that I recall happening before this. <pause> why can't I remember? What is happened to me?'
V2:
`Why does this matter to you? Why is it important to know?'
V1:
`What do you mean - why is it important to me? Because damn it - it is Me and who and what I am. The people and things in my life that make me who I am, that give me meaning and reason of being.'
V2:
`And why is that?'
V1:
`What do you mean? You - you with all these questions but no answers, I want answers do you hear me! Answer my questions and tell me where I am and why you brought me here! Damn it!'
V2:
`What makes you believe I brought you here - and where is here?'
V1:
`Stop with that, you are driving me crazy. You have me totally confused. I - I can't thin...k. Think that is it right? You want me to think of why I am here. You want me to work it out for my self, find my own answers. That is it - right?'
V2:
No response
V1:
`Ah ha! I thought so. Wait: thought. Thought - think. - I can't see or sense you, I don't sense a body - you say I am not dead - or maybe I am and all this is....'
V2:
`Is?'
V1:
`That is it - I am my consciousness. That is it right? This conversation I am having with you is really me, that I am in my own thought seeking the answer to my own questions.'
V2:
No response
V1:
`Ah hah! The fact you did not respond must mean I am on the right track. Lets see - so if you are me and I am but thought...but why? What is the purpose - what is to be gained by this - to what end?'
V2:
`Why need there be an end? Is not a beginning enough?'
V1:
`But for every beginning there has to be an end doesn't there?'
V2:
No response
V1:
`But if there are no ends and just beginnings...but how, how can there be just beginnings? Everything has to end sometime doesn't it?'
V2:
`What is the end of something?'
V1:
`THE END! Finished, complete, over, fin, DEAD!'
V2:
`And who makes it so? Who says when it is the End?'
V1:
`You are right! Who decrees when something has ended? Actually if you think...that is it! If you think you realize that there is no end. That all that is continues forever and the only concept of something no longer being is purely that - just a concept imposed by the need of a dimensional reality to keep a perspective in the time and space continuum. But if you negate this relative ness - it is not too difficult to think that all is and forever shall be!
V2:
`Amen'